Any time I see you've commented on something, I instantly take note. I am a little miffed because I don't think the Clears are twice as good as the Elex as the price reflects, but if I can get the improved driver that has a higher SPL tolerance I can't really put a price on that. That said I am really drawn to Clear as it still has that Focal house sound of being incredibly dynamic, punchy, and visceral. Close. https://www.verumsonus.com/focal-clear-vs-focal-elear-vs-focal-elex-comparison-review/. Would you say the Clear is worth the premium over the Elex? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, RME/887/ZDT Jr>Auteur/Atticus/HD800(SDR)/Elex/LCD2C/Verum1/HD6XX. Dec 22, 2020 #383. amirm said: Yes, I plan to do that. Pretty sweet deal, if you ask me. purr1n Finding his inner redneck Staff … Focal has long been one of the biggest names in high end speakers, but its recently ventured into headphones and has been on a … Wouldn't look to upgrade. I should be getting a Clear and Utopia loaner soon and I'll eventually be doing a 4 way shootout comparison of Elear, Elex, Clear, and Utopia. Desktop: PC > RME ADI-2 DAC > KH750 > KH120 or Focal Elex/Clear pro/Elegia/AKG 371/+5. ARE OLED TVS STILL THE BEST IN 2020? I have auditioned Clear and Utopia a few times now and Elex is pretty damn close to Clear. The Focal Clear feature an M-shaped, inverted-dome, full-range driver measuring 40mm. This means that from the same source set at the same volume Clear will go louder. Just as a side note, why not pad swap the ELEAR pads onto the Elex and "A-B-C" test them? If the purported effects of the pad swap could be replicated in REVERSE, than that could go a long way in furthering the hypothesis that the Elex is really just an Elear with Clear pads--and help us poor schlubs who want to pay as little as possible for the highest possible return in sonic value :P Thx in advance! Dec 22, 2020 #383. Coztomba. The advantages of AKG K702 over Elex are: 1) better, wider and more accurate sound stage, 2) reverse U shaped sound signature, 3) lighter weight, 4) less clamping force, and most importantly 5) more comfortable for long gaming sessions. The difference between the Clear and Utopia is, in my opinion, almost as much preference driven as it is performance. Focal Stellia: Focal Clear: Focal Stellia headphones: Focal Clear headphones: 1.2 m cable with 3.5 mm connector: 1.2 m cable with 3.5 mm connector : 3 m balanced cable with 4-pin XLR connector: 3 m cable with 6.35 mm connector: 3.5 mm to 6.35 mm adapter: 3 m balanced cable with 4-pin XLR connector: zipping rigid travel carrying … Joined Jun 13, 2020 Location Australia … Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date; N: 0 transactions. Desktop: PC > RME ADI-2 DAC > KH750 > KH120 or Focal Elex/Clear pro/Elegia/AKG 371/+5. They are practically all-black, expect for the metallic silver finish on the cup hinges and logo. This is false. (Auteur,Atticus,Eikon,6XX, ADI-2 Pendant ETC... | Arya | LCD-i4 | Ether C Flow 1.1 | -> CMA400i. As @project86 has mentioned, the Elex has borrowed "here 'n there" from the Elear and Clear. On the other hand, the Klipsch HP-3 comes in a box made of wood. After that, it’s a bit tougher. Read full InnerFidelity review here: https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/focal-clear-over-ear-open-headphones Central Scrutinizer. Did you notice the crackle on normal listening or only specifically testing for it on high volumes? Ok, a lot of good responses and discussion in this thread, and I think I'll settle down in on the Elex, that'll open up my budget a bit more to also upgrade from my E10K/Magni 2 combo. ... Bass the Ananda is the clear winner here, it has bigger bass image and doesn't clip on loud heavy bass tracks like some Hans Zimmer soundtracks. The Focal Elear comes in an all black leather coated case. The Focal Elear are great looking headphones that have a high-end and premium feel. May 6, … That said, having heard both: if I didn't have problems with my Elex I'd still own it. I own the Elex and I think they are a very worthy upgrade from the HD600 and after listening and owning to several sub $1k headphones, the Elex have my favorite overall sound. Top Reader Voted Headphones; Dynamic … I haven't noticed any QC issue, on the contrary – these are the most precisely built and finely tuned headphones I have encountered (except the Utopia obviously). The Focal Elear are great looking headphones that have a high-end and premium feel. purr1n, Dec 20, 2017 #2. But it is also a bit brighter than Clear and has a little less bass. purr1n, Dec 15, 2017 #1. For the Elex, Massdrop have done something similar to my thinking, and made the whole headphone a Sony-esque matte black, including using a darker version of the cable from the Clear. Focal Clear vs Elear vs Elear with Clear Pads vs Elex Comparison Review. It will if you put Elear pads on it. Dec 22, 2020 #378. Specifically, we get the drivers from an Elear, pads from the Clear, housing elements from both models, and cables from the Clear, all with a blacked out "stealth" theme. Well, sometimes the measurements keep us honest. ), but that's a far cry from $700 to $1500! A place for discussion, news, reviews and DIY projects related to portable audio, headphones, headphone amplifiers and DACs. The Elear I have in the office I bought as a result of them being available new-but-open-box, from another vendor, for $499. So, I received a Focal Clear that I got and I love. RayDunzl Major Contributor. Focal Elear vs Sennheiser HD 600. Dec 22, 2020 #378. I think people typically choose the Elex and Clear over the Elear. Review. There’s no active noise-cancelling here, but thanks to the closed-back design and comfortable fit of the cups, it almost feels like there is. Elear, Elex, and Clear all use the same driver. just now [WTB] [USA-MI] [H] PayPal [W] Focal Clear and Focal Elex. I don’t totally hear that much of a resemblance to the HD600 other than some shout, but I can see someone who likes the HD600 gravitate towards this. I always wondered if the Elex was a Frankenstein baby of the Elear and Clear. The … Moving the bar up a tiny bit, I would clearly vote for the Focal Clears. Why is Focal Elear better than Sennheiser HD 600? 1 year ago. I never got to spend enough time with the Clear, and was thinking about the Elex. Any info or opinions are welcome. A place for discussion, news, reviews and DIY projects related to portable audio, headphones, headphone amplifiers and DACs. Close. The Focal Elex pads are going back on sale soon (Drop has ordered over 1000 pairs), and this time Drop promises they will be heavily QCing the pads to ensure they don't have a repeat of the nightmare they had last time (read up on it if you don't know about it and you're curious, tons of threads about it on reddit and in the Focal Elex Pads discussion tab on the product page for them). Forum Donor. Joined Sep 7, 2018 Messages 470 Likes 308. Focal Clear CSDs . I can't really say specific differences as I haven't done a side-by-side yet. Priced at $1499, the Clear is intended to be the best option Focal offers for under $1500. I have the Focal Clear and I've heard other Focal headphones at various stores and shows. Always had a suspicion that the Elex was going to make the Focal product portfolio kind of awkward. Also, the Elex fits in better with my X2, 4XX, 6XX, X love affair. Inspired by Modernity vs Antiquity – Focal Elear vs Klipsch HP-3 Comparison Review Specifications. Owned the Elex, best headphone under $1000 that I've heard, easily. I'm very glad that the Elex has adopted the Clear-style of cables despite the headphone originating from a Elear base. 39. That's 31 … heard there is unit variation possibly so would want details about your unit and stuff like clipping and creaking/rattle. Cookies help us deliver our Services. The upper mids are filled in, but not overly emphasized. It's that combination of knowledge, candor, graciousness, and well-spokeness. It's like reference headphones, "what does I_want_all_the_tacos" think :) Seriously dude, you oughta have your own website or blog or something. Head-Fier. 96. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. per audeze, a friend did warn me about the infamous weight issues for many of their models: suggested instead to try hfm…but their qc is so so. Innerfidelity is a much more credible tester than any other on the web, and his plots show an incredibly precise driver match. On the other hand, the Focal are better-built headphones and feel sturdier. The Elex has a 2 year warranty (from Focal) in the US. A lot of people are probably unwilling to put up with the long lead times either company attaches to MD's bulk orders, they don't seem to be getting any shorter drop after drop so maybe that plays into the math. Most of the build is metal, and the cups are large and well-made. Not a problem on the Elex. Focal Elear. The Elears are listed with a 1 year warranty at Crutchfield (it's dependent on country and retailer). I am really surprised they haven’t been reviewed more and as of right now, I think they’re underrated. Great article by VS once again. Part of the reason is that Focal supposedly designed their headphones in a way that limits their SPL. (This confirms it?) And they don’t just look expensive, they feel it too. 104dB/mW vs 97dB/mW; 220 Ohms … Both headphones come in beautiful boxes. R. rcstevensonaz Member. They are practically all-black, expect for the metallic silver finish on the cup hinges and logo. Joined Nov 27, 2020 Messages 24 Likes 9. There’s been a few comparison reviews from others between all the Focal headphones. SONY OLED A8H 4K SMART TV - AN IN DEPTH REVIEW - Duration: 22:19. I can get the Focal Clear for 750€ and wonder if I should pull the trigger. Frankly, we wouldn’t have been surprised to see a price tag twice the size on these over-ears. Last year, Massdrop announced a collaboration with Focal and started collecting funds for the Focal Elex. Im looking for one TOTL set of cans to add to my Harem. Some of the things I've read lead me to believe Focal 'phones might not be comfortable for big heads. Posted by. May 6, 2020 #2. 37 points. performance. This may sound redundant but what does a Elear with Elex pads sound like? Maybe someone even already HAS the Elear, and doesn't realize you can "turn it into" an Elex just by buying the pads. Post #8,300 of 8,441 Coztomba Head-Fier. solderdude Major Contributor. Have you tried swapping the Elex and Elear pads? Hi again, ... Hey Reddit, I need some advice. I auditioned the Clears already, and loved them, but Im not sure how they compare to the cheaper Elex. Yeah, unfortunately that's not how pricing works in audio. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Jude's review in the Elex thread shows the frequency response between the two phones to be very, very similar. I auditioned the Clears already, and loved them, but Im not sure how they compare to the cheaper Elex. Well at least it is to me, when you have a product available only to some parts of the market through a "dollarstore" outlet at half price and more or less the same if not better (!) The Sennies seem slow in comparison but make up for it with better overall tonality imo. 1 comment. Headphones: Focal Utopia, Hifiman HE6, Hifiman HE1000 V1, ZMF Atticus, Sennheiser HD580, Sennheiser PC37x, Sony MDR-1000x, Koss KSC75 I use them with an Audeze Deckard which is an excellent pairing. That person thinks the Clear is muddy, shouty, and not as warm as the Elex. Where they're different is that the Elex has more air in the treble & a wider sound stage; the Clear has more bass both mid & sub in addition to brighter highs. If it in fact works, an Elear/Clear pad combo could be considered a viable option by some people, even if it just gets you say halfway there sonically. Anyways... Have you tried pad swapping the Elex pads onto the Elear yet? The HiFiMan Ananda are better critical listening headphones than the Focal Elear. I have a lot of problems with it but I know if I sell it I'll just end up with another, like I've already learned once. Generally this headphone doesn’t need a dedicated headphone amp to go loud enough, most interfaces will drive it with ease. May 6, 2020 #2. I know I'd read it! Priced at $1499, the Clear is intended to be the best option Focal offers for under $1500. Time to get your act straigt frenchie! Close • Posted by. The retail price for the Clear is 500.00 more than the Elear. Focal Elex: Basically Elex just fixes all my complaints with Elear. I realize the Clear pads cost I think $150 (maybe buy used? It just so happens companies have been making sucky headphones lately. They have the same reference sound and warmth as the HD600 with a more refined and clear presentation. They have a nice grill on the cups and a well-padded headband. 5Hz vs 12Hz; 7dB/mW higher sound pressure level? ... Share: Facebook Google+ Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email Link. Review. Press J to jump to the feed. Dec 22, 2020 ... Share: Facebook Google+ Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email Link. Are they the same as with the Clear pads? Honestly you'd have to hear both to decide which you like more. WTB. The Clear would carve out a really nice role in my collection between my HD800 and Auteur. As a recent HD800 convert, I appreciate your review and comparisons. Cheers Share This Post post-16053427. Do all of these models have the same clamp strength? For EDM, these can be awesome, or they can suck a lot. Does the clear have that mid suck out as the elear does? Used vs new is a … Others may suggest the AKG … The Focals have always confused me; my results actually aren’t that different from Tyll’s either in that the Clear extends very slightly better and measures with more bass in general when the shout is taken into account. Focal Elear. On the other hand, the Focal are better-built headphones and feel sturdier. My other pick would have been the Ananda, but the lack of comfort and built is unacceptable at this price segment. Yeah the elex is pretty close to the clear, the elear has like audeze tuning with the recessed treble. 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